Speaking on Bloomberg, Carnegie’s President William Burns discussed the NATO Summit in Belgium and President Trump’s deep skepticism of his value of alliances, and this image hurts our relations with Russia. Russian interference in the United States 2016 elections is beyond questioning at this point, but the one tasks of the Helsinki summit is to manage the adversary relationship between the United States and Russia. Burns mentions that personal relationships matter in diplomacy, but you have to understand the importance of staying close with your allies and having strategic conversations.

This interview was originally published by Bloomberg.