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What Was That? The NATO Summit 2025, with Nathaniel Reynolds

Podcast host Alex Gabuev is joined by Nathaniel Reynolds, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Program who worked in senior Russia policy roles during Joe Biden’s presidency, to discuss the recent NATO summit in The Hague and the implications for Ukraine, Russia, and Europe.

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By Alexander Gabuev and Nate Reynolds
Published on Jul 3, 2025

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This year’s NATO summit was very unusual on multiple levels. Amid the disruption brought by Donald Trump’s presidency, and with Ukraine’s European allies adamant that continuing U.S. leadership is needed to help the embattled country at the most critical point in its defensive war against Russia, NATO members made an unprecedented commitment to spend 5% of GDP on defense by 2035. Where is NATO headed under Trump 2.0? Will its European members be able to implement the defense spending targets set in The Hague? What lessons is the Kremlin taking from the summit, and how could NATO affect Putin’s war optimism?

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Alexander Gabuev
Director, Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center
Alexander Gabuev

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Nate Reynolds
Senior Fellow, Russia and Eurasia Program
Nate Reynolds

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