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How Türkiye Navigates a World of War

On this episode of Pivotal States, Christopher Chivvis sits down with Aslı Aydıntaşbaş, a fellow at the Brookings Institution and director of the Turkey project. They discuss the U.S.–Türkiye relations, Türkiye's regional ambitions, and the role this U.S. ally has to play in shaping international politics.

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By Christopher S. Chivvis and Aslı Aydintaşbaş
Published on Sep 28, 2026

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The war in Ukraine to its north; the war in Gaza to its south; the war with Iran to its east: Türkiye sits at the crux of several dangerous conflicts straining the global system. It is a critical American partner but also one of the most difficult for Washington to manage. From its role as an historic bridge between the Middle East and Europe, to the close “bromance” its leader, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, enjoys with U.S. President Donald Trump, Türkiye is a pivotal state worth deeper strategic consideration.

How is Türkiye using its middle power status to shape the United States’ war with Iran? What is Türkiye's role in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in Gaza? Why does Türkiye favor negotiation with Russia over letting the war in Ukraine continue? What does Trump’s relationship with Erdoğan tell us about the Trump administration's foreign policy? 

On this episode of Pivotal States, Christopher Chivvis sits down with Aslı Aydıntaşbaş, a fellow at the Brookings Institution and director of the Turkey project. They discuss the U.S.–Türkiye relations, Türkiye's regional ambitions, and the role this U.S. ally has to play in shaping international politics.

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Christopher S. Chivvis
Senior Fellow and Director, American Statecraft Program
Christopher S. Chivvis

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Aslı Aydintaşbaş
Fellow, Brookings Institution

Carnegie does not take institutional positions on public policy issues; the views represented herein are those of the author(s) and do not necessarily reflect the views of Carnegie, its staff, or its trustees.

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