During an interview with CNN’s Lead with Jake Tapper, Carnegie’s Marwan Muasher said that because the United States does not have a good record of intervention in the Middle East, it is important that regional countries take an important role in the fight against the Islamic State. Muasher said that he does not think regional countries would participate by sending their armies into another Arab territory, but they could contribute to the military campaign by providing airbases, logistical support, intelligence, and using their leverage with Sunni tribes to convince them not to support the Islamic State.

Muasher emphasized the importance of focusing on the political and cultural fight against the Islamic State. While the group can be defeated militarily, he argued, the United States and regional countries will need to take steps to prevent the creation of more groups like the Islamic State in the future.

This interview was originally aired on CNN’s Lead with Jake Tapper.