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Self-Dealing in the Trump Administration: A Conversation With Norm Eisen

Join Aaron David Miller as he engages in conversation with Norm Eisen, founder of Democracy Defenders Action , on the Trump administration's unprecedented self-dealing.

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By Aaron David Miller and Norm Eisen
Published on Jun 12, 2025

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Corruption, illicit foreign bribery schemes, and family members trading on presidential reputations for self-enrichment have surrounded the American political system for years. But the Trump presidency has embarked on an unprecedented scale of self-dealing out in the open, muddying the line between the national interest and those of the Trump family’s business enterprises. At the same time, the administration has hollowed out internal watchdogs, curbed ethics requirements, and undermined America’s credibility in the war against illicit finance. As Peter Baker noted in the New York Times, the "death or dearth of outrage," over this tsunami of self-dealing may well reflect how the Trump Administration has reshaped the standards of what's acceptable in Washington. 

Where are the current constraints against presidential self-dealing? Why have the public and political elites not generated the kind of reaction that might have been seen in years past?  Are there historic parallels and ways to course correct? What impact do these actions have on U.S. standing globally?

 Join Aaron David Miller as he engages in conversation with Norm Eisen, founder of Democracy Defenders Action, on the next Carnegie Connects.  

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Aaron David Miller
Senior Fellow, American Statecraft Program
Aaron David Miller

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Norm Eisen
Co-founder and Board Member, Democracy Defenders Action
Norm Eisen

Carnegie does not take institutional positions on public policy issues; the views represented herein are those of the author(s) and do not necessarily reflect the views of Carnegie, its staff, or its trustees.

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