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What Does the Fall of the Assad Regime Mean for Syria and the Middle East?

Aaron David Miller sits down with Sanam Vakil and Charles Lister to discuss what the collapse of the Assad regime and the rise of Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham mean for Syria’s future governance, regional power dynamics, and U.S. policy.

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By Aaron David Miller, Sanam Vakil, Charles Lister
Published on Jan 23, 2025

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Over the last two years, intelligence organizations and analysts failed to anticipate critical events in the Middle East that would roil the region. The sudden collapse of the Assad regime and the opening of a new chapter in Syria’s conflict-ridden story is the latest in a fraught period that has seen an of escalation of tensions in Israel, Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran. 

What explains the Assad regime’s sudden demise and the ascendance of Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) and other Sunni Islamist organizations? What do these events portend for Syria’s governance and the policies of Iran, Russia, Turkey, and Israel in the region? And what would be the best policy on Syria for the incoming U.S. administration?  

Join Aaron David Miller as he sits down with Sanam Vakil, director of the Middle East and North Africa Programme at Chatham House, and Charles Lister, senior fellow and the director of the Syria and Countering Terrorism & Extremism programs at the Middle East Institute, to explore these and other issues.

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Aaron David Miller
Senior Fellow, American Statecraft Program
Aaron David Miller

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Sanam Vakil
Director of the Middle East and North Africa Programme at Chatham House.
Sanam Vakil
Charles Lister
Middle East Institute
Charles Lister

Carnegie does not take institutional positions on public policy issues; the views represented herein are those of the author(s) and do not necessarily reflect the views of Carnegie, its staff, or its trustees.

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