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The North Korean Nuclear Threat: The View From Beijing

Jen Psaki spoke with Paul Haenle on the heels of President Trump’s trip to Asia. Haenle described the view from Beijing of the North Korean nuclear threat, what would be a red line for the China, and how the current North Korean leadership has changed from the past leaders. (Total runtime - 16:41)

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By Jen Psaki and Paul Haenle
Published on Nov 17, 2017

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In the second episode of DiploPod, Jen Psaki spoke with Paul Haenle, the director of the Carnegie–Tsinghua Center. The wide ranging conversation, coming on the heels of President Trump’s trip to Asia, focused on the view from Beijing of the North Korean nuclear threat including what actions would constitute a red line for the Chinese government, whether the United States and China are aligned on their objectives on the Korean peninsula, and how the approach of the current North Korean leadership has dramatically changed from the past leaders.

Paul Haenle previously served as the White House representative to the U.S. negotiating team at the six-party-talks nuclear negotiations during the end of the Bush Administration, and he had been assigned twice to the U.S. embassy in Beijing while serving as a U.S. Army company commander.

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Jen Psaki
Former Nonresident Scholar
Jen Psaki
Paul Haenle
Former Maurice R. Greenberg Director’s Chair, Carnegie China
Paul Haenle

Carnegie does not take institutional positions on public policy issues; the views represented herein are those of the author(s) and do not necessarily reflect the views of Carnegie, its staff, or its trustees.

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